III: Menuetto: Allegro Vivace. Trio: Un Poco Meno Allegro
IV: Allegro Ma Non Troppo
I: Allegro Ma Non Troppo (Awakening Of Happy Feelings On Arriving In The Country)
II: Andante Molto Mosso (By The Brook)
III: Allegro - Sempre Piu Stretto - In Tempo D'Allegro - Tempo I - Presto (Merry Gathering Of The Country Folk)
IV: Allegro (Thunder And Storm)
V: Allegretto (Shepherds' Song. Beneficient Feelings With Thanks To The Godhead After The Storm)
Track Listings (8) - Disc #4
I: Poco Sostenuto - Vivace
II: Allegretto
III: Presto - Assai Meno Presto
IV: Allegro Con Brio
I: Allegro Vivace E Con Brio
II: Allegretto Scherzando
III: Tempo Di Menuetto
IV: Allegro Vivace
Track Listings (5) - Disc #5
I: Allegro Non Troppo, Un Poco Maetoso - Barbara Bonney
II: Molto Vivace - Presto - Barbara Bonney
III: Adagio Molto E Cantabile - Andante Moderato - Tempo I - Andante Moderato - Adagio - Lo Stesso Tempo - Barbara Bonney
IV: Presto - Allegro Assai - Barbara Bonney
Presto - Recitativo - Allegro Assai - Allegro Assai Vivace (Alla Marcia) - Andante Maestoso - Adagio Ma Non Troppo Ma Divoto - Allegro Energico E Sempre Ben Marcato - Allegro Ma Non Tanto - Presto - Maestoso - Prestissimo - Barbara Bonney
"Rattle's new Beethoven Symphony cycle is a pretty solid disappointment given the high expectations that I, and many others, had for it. My first impressions were lukewarm, but I was hopeful that the cycle would grow on me. Unfortunately, the opposite occured, and after several weeks aquaintance, this cycle has dropped even lower in my estimation. As has been noted by many, Rattle makes the VPO play in a period style with little vibrato, quick tempos, and generally spare (if rhythmically detailed) textures. This approach has been successfully applied before (Zinman, Mackerras, Harnoncourt), but Rattle doesn't pull it off as well as the aforementioned others in my opinion. To much of the time the orchestra simply sounds unpleasantly thin, edgy and off balance, as opposed to lean, lithe and transparent. The thin, edgy sound of the orchestra is exacerbated by the sub-par engineering which is seriously lacking in midbass weight, in addition to having a rather narrow soundstage. Add to that too much emphasis on the high mid-range and the basic sonic picture is unattractive. Having pointed out these initial basic flaws, I would say that Rattle scores highest marks in the 3rd and 9th symphonies which are very well done, especially the 9th, which is one of the best modern recordings I've heard despite some idiosyncracies in the finale. The rest of the performances are quite mixed.The first two symphonies are given quick, period style performances as has become almost the norm these days. Rattle's versions are not bad, but not appreciably better than many others I've heard, and not as good as Abbado's.As I mentioned, the 3rd is quite good - particularly in the first movement which is quite exciting, and in the harrowing second movement. The finale is a bit of a let down, but the reading overall is very strong.The 4th and 5th are also two of the better readings in the cycle, however I would not consider them competitive with the best available. But they were enjoyable. I would have liked even more fire in the first movement of the 5th, though.The 6th is terrible, IMO - one of the worst I have ever heard, and the major "turkey" of this cycle. Everything sounds calculated, mannered and unnatural, and in many places Rattle's reading really hangs fire. Tempos are on the broad side, which I don't mind (Celibidache's reading is one of my favorites), but in this case the whole reading is curiously lifeless. The 6th is my favorite of the LvB symphonies, but this was a major chore to sit through. A total bust.The 7th and 8th are not so great either. I dislike Rattle's fussy way with the first movement theme of the 8th, and the finale is a little slower than I would have liked. The 7th just doesn't sound convincing to me, and I found the vibrato-less period-style incarnation of the VPO more annoying here than elsewhere.The 9th really is superb, however, and I hope that it is released on its own, because it really is a worthy performance for any collector. The whole period-style thing seems to have been scrapped for this work, and the VPO really sounds more in their element. The first movement is close to ideal - perfectly paced, dramatic, and full of fire. The second is quite good, and the slow third movement is very beautiful. In the finale things go astray a bit, particularly in the coda, which is just bizzarre and totally unconvincing (what's with the piccolo?). But all things considered, this is worth a listen if you ever get a chance.I would not recommend this cycle to someone looking for their first complete cycle. Blomstedt/Dresden on Brilliant Classics is much better overall, and can be had for under $... Otherwise get individual performances. This cycle is strictly for the curious, and those willing to take a chance - maybe you will like it better than I did."
Sir Simon's Beethoven
Giacomo Holdini | Minneapolis, MN | 04/10/2003
(5 out of 5 stars)
"When being courted as Artistic Director of the Birmingham Symphony Orchestra a decade or so ago, Sir Simon Rattle responded by saying something to the effect of, "OK, but don't expect me to play any Beethoven symphonies." At the time, Sir Simon apparently had no desire to travel down the well-worn, highly commercialized path of Beethoven symphonic interpretation. In defense of his position, it must be said that every major (and minor) conductor who has ever stepped upon the rostrum has tried his hand at the Great Nine; moreover, the recording catalogues are littered with various recorded interpretations. What could a twenty-first century English conductor possibly have to add to the wealth of interpretations already before the public?It comes as a bit of a surprise, then, that one of Rattle's first major recording enterprises as newly minted conductor of the Berlin Philharmonic is a complete set of the Nine performed with that other great European orchestra, the Vienna Philharmonic - a move made all the more interesting when one considers that Rattle's immediate predecessor, Claudio Abbado, recorded a complete set with the Berliners themselves a scant two years earlier. However, after hearing this set, I believe that Rattle's trepidation at (or disdain of) recording the Nine was ill founded, to say the least. Although similarities can be found between Rattle's and other recent sets (e.g., Abbado with Berlin, Harnoncourt with the COE), as well as legendary older ones (Toscanini with NBC or Karajan with Berlin in '62), Rattle's set stands on its own merits. And based on those merits, I feel it is among the most exciting and compelling sets of the Beethoven symphonies that I have yet heard.Rattle's success lies in a fundamental formula that combines urgent tempi, pointed rhythms, and dramatic dynamics with an insightful, original interpretive flair, all underscored by playing and recording quality of the highest caliber. (Unlike the rounded, at times almost dull sound on Abbado's Berlin set, this set's sound has plenty of bite and point, just what is needed for Beethoven.) Like Zinman and Harnoncourt before him, Rattle uses a "period" approach on modern instruments. The Vienna forces are reduced, and the strings often use a playing technique virtually devoid of vibrato, making them sound more period than modern. Winds and brass stand out in marked contrast. Indeed, I have not before heard interpretations of Beethoven symphonies where the brass is so prominent. However, always his own man, Rattle refuses to be bound by period convention. While seldom wayward, the interpretations bring out personal, dramatic nuances at every turn. Veteran listeners of Beethoven will find themselves surprised at how many new things Rattle brings out of the scores. (Some credit, no doubt, must go to the Urtext editions.) Listen, for instance, to the tragic depths plumbed in the funeral march of the Eroica, or the jubilation of the finale of the Fifth. Of note, too, is his account of the Eighth, in which the work is made to sound every bit as persuasive as the Seventh. (Beethoven always preferred the Eighth to the Seventh, and, hearing this Viennese version, one can easily understand why.) Rarely has depth of expression gone so well with textual fidelity.Lest I sound like PR rep for EMI, I should make note of some reservations I have. At times, the orchestral sound can be a little too spare. While I have always felt that Karajan's ravishing approach to Beethoven's sound world was overrated, feeling that the beauty of it somewhat diminished the dramatic impact of Beethoven's darker side, I nevertheless could have done with a little more vibrato on the strings of Rattle's set, and a bit more fullness in general. Rattle's Pastoral, for instance, lacks something of the lush ripeness that Walter brought to it. Conversely, while the "period" approach to tempi is abundantly evident throughout the first eight, the tables are somewhat turned in the Ninth. The first movement is surprisingly broad. Although it stops short of being sluggish, I nevertheless would have prefered a faster clip in this music. In the finale, Rattle's insights that proved eye-opening elsewhere, here border on being perverse. For instance, the coda rushes in at breakneck speed, but then leaves at a clop rather than a gallop, just the opposite of what we normally would expect. Prior to that, though, the great choral outburst leaves one in awe: this may be an unusual interpretation of the Ninth, but an impressive one nonetheless.While no complete set can equal one that you yourself could assemble from all your favorite individual interpretations of the symphonies, Rattle's set is certainly worthy of issue in an already crowded field. For newcomers to Beethoven who are interested in hearing something in the way of a definitive interpretive vision of the symphonies, if such a thing is even possible, his set is on a short list of ones I would recommend. For those jaded people who have heard it all, or think they have, Rattle's set may just get the juices flowing again."
Fine Beethoven From Rattle, But Better VPO Sound
John Kwok | New York, NY USA | 07/22/2003
(4 out of 5 stars)
"It's a pity that Simon Rattle's Beethoven symphony cycle is the last in a series of recent recordings using Jonathan Del Mar's newly revised Barenheiter edition of Beethoven's symphonic scores. Otherwise, it might have earned recognition as the best recent Beethoven symphony cycle recording. Still it is by far the best Beethoven symphony cycle recorded by the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra. But should it be regarded as first choice for those interested in a Beethoven symphony cycle, especially one using the new Jonathan Del Mar-edited edition?Simon Rattle demonstrates in these recordings that he is a fine interpreter of Beethoven's scores, which he indicated previously in his Beethoven piano concerti cycle with pianist Alfred Brendel, recorded too with the Vienna Philharmonic. However, he doesn't quite match the lyricism or textural richness attained by Harnoncourt, Zinman or Abbado. Instead, for most of the symphonies, these are simply well played, clinical accounts of the Jonathan Del Mar scores. The most notable exceptions are those of the Third Symphony (Rattle's interpretation, especially of the first and second movements, is among the most exciting I've heard, easily comparable in quality to Abbado's most recent account, Giulini's with the Los Angeles Philharmonic, or any of Karajan's.) and the 9th Symphony. The 5th symphony is a fascinating interpretation too, and one of the few which adhere closely to the brisk interpretations favored by Zinman and Abbado. Unfortunately, the 6th symphony lacks the majestic lyricism I've heard in Bruno Walter's classic account with the Columbia Symphony Orchestra and the rich textures I've heard in Harnoncourt's and Abbado's (When I met Harnoncourt earlier this year I had remarked to him that I was not impressed with his COE recording of the 6th symphony, but it's actually much better than I had thought, since it is a rich, texturally glowing account which requires repeated listenings.) versions. And the worst account in this cycle has to be Rattle's interpretation of the 7th symphony; much to my surprise he isn't as inventive as Abbado in using swift changes in tempi or as successful as either Carlos Kleiber or Abbado in emphasizing the score's intricate architecture.So should you buy Rattle's account of the Beethoven symphony cycle? My answer is yes if you treasure the rich sound produced by the Vienna Philharmonic in its concert hall, the Musikverein. The sound quality is among the best I've heard, equal to Abbado's. But if you prefer more exciting, dynamic accounts of Beethoven's symphonies, then I would recommend instead, Harnoncourt's and Abbado's, with Zinman's a first choice for those on a budget."
Beethoven - A discovery new and old
YU Wei Choong | Penang Malaysia | 05/14/2003
(5 out of 5 stars)
"A discovery new and oldThis new set has been long and highly awaited. When news came through Gramophone that a new cycle was being recorded, I was filled with excitement. Furtwangler, Karajan (1963 and 1977), Klemperer and Toscanini to name the justly great cycles of Beethoven came back to mind. Being recorded live, it is bound to be a set filled with high charge energy. The above would have been recorded in the old school of performance whereas it was expected that Rattle would try out a combination of the VPO's rich and lustrous tone and tradition with new performance practice, not to mention the new text edition by Jonathan del Mar. And in this he does. In certain parts of the symphonies, you will hear the rich tones associated with the VPO but in certain areas, you will be surprised! Abbado's new DG set and DVD cycle uses the new del Mar edition as well.With Sir Simon Rattle, one would expect an energetic and interpretations full of delight and surprises. Which is exactly what one would get listening to the first 2 symphonies. Full of verve and wit and swift tempos, they are a sheer delight. Being a live recording the audience was clearly there with them - no intrusions from the audience throughout.The 1st movement of the Eroica comes through with energy and power. Klemperer and Giulini come to mind in this and although the speeds are distinctly different, the merits in these recordings are clear. What I missed in this Eroica was the intensity which the Gramophone reviewer Richard Osborne mentioned in his review of one of the actual concerts. If I had not known of that performance, I would be inclined to think that this was a good Eroica performance and as such, it should be. The 4th symphony is swift in tempos and freshly projected but lacking in the rich sound and articulation in Karajan's 1963 set and Abbado's recent DG set.The ideas and interpretation in the 5th Symphony in this new set sounds more connected than the earlier release (also under EMI). In that earlier release which was coupled with a Brahms Violin Concerto with Kyung Wha Chung, the mix of old and new was too much and too many. It was clear that one would not be getting a reading with the momentum to carry you through.The Pastoral in this new set is a wonder. The Awakening of cheerful
feelings on arriving in the country and Scene by the Brook is as delightful as it can get. It was sheer delight and the build up to the Storm section was superbly done culminating with a real feeling of peace and serenity in the finale. The cellos are wonderfully nursed in the finale and being Giulini's assistant back in the Los Angeles Philhamonic, I would have expected no less. Listen to Giulini's wonder Pastoral issued in 1994 with the La Scala Philharmonic under Sony Classical. I would have loved to be in the audience at the Vienna performance.The 7th symphony is only occasionally satisfying. The antiphonal lay out of the violins do pay dividends in the 1st movement but somehow I found it lacking in power (listen to Carlos Kleiber's VPO recording(DG Originals) or Karajan in 1963(DG), Toscanini's with the New York issued by Naxos and Sir Colin Davis (EMI)). The 2nd movement is not as moving and memorable as it should but this does not take away the force and momentum in the Allegro con brio finale.The 8th symphony comes across with thrilling projection and excitement. Only in the Allegretto Scherzando did I find the reading subdued but no problems with the Allegro Vivace. The 9th symphony is packed with drama and tension and the first 2 movements was wonderfully played. But certain parts of the symphony I missed some details which are clearly audible in the slow movements - listen to Abbado's wonderful BPO performance (recently issued by TDK DVD) at the 10th European Concert and issued as part of Abbado's DVD Beethoven cycle. The finale is memorable for a fine performance not only from the soloists but also from the City of Birmingham chorus under Simon Halsey. It is clear that this is a set to keep worthy for the Pastoral, Eroica, Choral and the first 2 symphonies. I await eagerly when Rattle would get a chance to record with his new orchestra and when his ideas and style would be grafted into the playing of the BPO in the years to come. Rattle does indeed take you on a journey of discovery and along the way, surprises, delight, excitement and disappointment comes to mind and for the price, it is a journey worth undertaking every few years once! Bon voyage!"
Much better than expected, given the other reviews....
Eugene Koh | Torrance, CA United States | 10/03/2005
(5 out of 5 stars)
"I purchased this set with a little trepidation after reading some of the negative reviews here. I recently upgraded my stereo equipment and was looking for a modern recording which would have excellent sound quality. I am also a fan of Simon Rattle, so this seemed to fit the bill perfectly.
After I turned it on, I heaved a huge sigh of relief. Comments about the sound being "thin and edgy", with a "narrow soundstage", were a bit off the mark. It does lean toward the bright side, but I think it is more from the effect of the hall than from bad engineering. From what I can hear, the Musikverein is fairly live and sounds more like LA's new Disney Hall than the old Dorothy Chandler Pavilion (which has a muted tubby sound). A live hall will tend to accentuate the treble, so on a sound system which is already bright (as many speakers and amplifiers tend to be), it probably would sound a little overly bright. However, on a sound system which tends to be neutral to warm (as mine is, with Conrad-Johnson amplification and Vandersteen speakers), this recording sounds lively, detailed, and though a little lean, I cannot say it sounds edgy.
As for soundstaging, my feeling is that of someone sitting in the tenth row. While the breadth of the soundstage is not enormous (think first row), it is more than adequate. The soundstage also has adequate depth, which becomes more apparent when the timpani comes into play. However, what might be missing is soundstage height, which is why I feel like I am listening to the orchestra more edge-on than at a high angle.
One thing that puzzles me is that the cover says that these were recorded live; however, I didn't hear a bit of audience noise. Maybe it was done in the hall in one take, but without the audience there? I don't know. I didn't hear one sneeze or cough.
In all, excellent sound quality combined with a refreshing (though not outlandish) interpretation. If you find the other Beethoven Symphony cycles boring, look into this one."